Brent Kearney

Posted on: July 28th, 2011 @ 11:37

Commonly held beliefs about quinoa are that it is not a grain, is easy to digest, has lots of nutrients, and is healthier for you than cereal grains. I used to believe this too, especially when I was doing the vegetarian thing. Recent science, however, tells us a different story about the effect of grains and grain-like foods on the human body.

As Robb Wolf puts it in the sixth chapter of his book:

You’ve likely heard the expression, “If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…” Quinoa is botanically not a grain, but because it has evolved in a similar biological niche [1], Quinoa has similar properties to grains, including chemical defense systems that irritate the gut. In the case of Quinoa, it contains soap-like molecules called saponins. Unlike gluten, which attaches to a carrier molecule in the intestines, saponins simply punch holes in the membranes of the microvilli cells. Yes, that’s bad. Saponins are so irritating to the immune system that they are used in vaccine research to help the body mount a powerful immune response. The bottom line is if you think grains or grain-like items like Quinoa are healthy or benign, you are not considering the full picture.”

It’s definitely not as bad as wheat, but it does make holes in your intestines through which pathogens can leak into your body, causing an immune response, raising systemic inflammation. Higher levels of inflammation put you at higher risk for a wide range of diseases and other problems. Health food indeed!

You may ask, “but doesn’t rinsing quinoa remove the saponin?” I always hoped so when I rinsed my quinoa. However, in retrospect, it tends to rain a lot outside, and if a simple rinse with water removed this protective layer, wouldn’t the birds be all over it? Quinoa has a reputation as an easy crop to grow because the saponin coating is so effective at keeping the birds away. Indeed, industrial agribusiness uses quinoa saponin as a pesticide for other crops. My guess is that at least some saponin remains after rinsing.

Unfortunately, saponin is not the end of the story on the toxins in quinoa and other grains and pseudo-grains. Plants have other chemical defence strategies for protecting their seeds from predation that is far more insidious: prolamins and lectins. In wheat, rye, barley and millet is there is a lectin called Wheat Germ Agglutinin (WGA), but all grains and pseudo grains — quinoa included — have similar molecules. These molecules are very difficult for your gut to break down, and is made even harder by enzyme inhibitors in grains which specifically thwart your ability to break them down (and in so doing prevent the absorption of other nutrients). So they tend to remain intact, undigested. This works out well for the plant, since undigested seeds pass through animals, allowing the seeds to spread and the plant to propagate. That’s not the insidious part though.

Some prolamins have a molecular structure that “fool” transport molecules in your gut into carrying them across the intestinal lining, fully intact. In the process, the tight junctions of the intestinal wall are loosened, allowing other materials from within the intestine into the blood stream. Even at very low concentrations, this causes an immune response, resulting in higher systemic inflammation. This is known as “leaky gut” — look it up, and you’ll find that researchers are connecting it to practically every autoimmune disease. That’s fairly insidious, but that’s still not the end of the story.

The truly insidious part is the effect of molecular mimicry. To your body, prolamin/lectin molecules can look very similar to some of the body’s native proteins. Although your immune system attacks the foreign invaders, other parts of your body treat them like friendly, native proteins, allowing them to attach to various cells throughout the body. In the following excerpt from Robb Wolf’s book, he explains what happens when WGA binds to a cell in the pancreas:

If the WGA is attacked by the immune system and an antibody is made against it (because the body thinks WGA is a bacteria or virus), that antibody will not only attach to WGA, it can also attach to the protein in your pancreas. When that WGA antibody attaches to your pancreas, it precipitates a wholesale immune response—attacking that tissue. Your pancreas is damaged, or destroyed, and you become type 1 diabetic. If that protein happened to be in the myelin sheath of your brain, you would develop multiple sclerosis.

Robb goes on to say that recent research shows that prolamins affect the transglutaminase group of enzymes, which are involved in modifying proteins for practically every tissue in the human body. The result is that these rogue molecules could end up having adverse effects anywhere in the body.

Now that is insidious! Who would have thought that seemingly innocent plants could be so evil?

You may be thinking, “wait a minute, isn’t this leaky gut business only for people with accute gluten sensitivities, such as those with celiac disease? And isn’t gluten only in wheat?” The following is from a live interview with Matt Lalonde, a chemist at Harvard University who follows the leading edge of research in this area:

So gluten is part of the family of proteins called prolamins; they’re found in all grains. And the autoimmune diseases that have been tested for the presence of the leaky gut, all present the leaky gut. So not all autoimmune diseases have been tested for the presence of leaky gut, but the ones that have been tested all show that the leaky gut is there. So the avoidance of all grains is good advice for people with autoimmune disease.

But why should normal people care? Well it turns out that there’s a confounding factor here. …When you eat grains, you’re getting gluten, you’re getting a variety of other antinutrients that are going to cause some gut dysfunction and compromise intestinal permeability, and they are not population specific. So they affect everyone, but it turns out that some individuals with autoimmune diseases are going to be hyper-responders.

So those antinutrients are lectins. In the lectin family you’ve got wheat germ agglutinin (WGA), phytohemagglutinin, soybean agglutinin, peanut lectin, concanavalin that are the most studied. Then you have phytic acids and phytates which inhibit digestive enzymes and impair mineral absorption. And then you have saponins, which also contribute to the leaky gut. None of those are population-specific. There might be hyper-responders in people with autoimmune disease, but they’re not population specific. Gut dysfunction is going to impair digestion and absorption of nutrients. It’s going to cause low level systemic inflammation by allowing gram-negative bacteria into the bloodstream.

That’s another precipitating factor for other autoimmune diseases, in fact. And interestingly, the leaky gut is now being linked to various aspects of the metabolic syndrome. So we’ve got non-alcoholic fatty liver disease that is directly linked to endotoxin translocation; that’s lipopolysacharides from the gram negative bacteria that are making their way to the liver and causing liver damage. And you also have hypercholesterolemia because it turns out that LDL particles can bind and neutralize the lipopolysacharides. Lipopolysacharides is something that is included in the membrane of gram negative bacteria.

What Dr. Lalonde is essentially saying is that eating grains causes leaky gut in everyone — or at least, their effects are not constrained to those with late-stage gut damage, such as those with celiac disease, ulcerative colitis or those with autoimmune disease. Such people have more obvious, extreme responses when they eat grains, but to some extent it can affect anyone. Over time, the accumulation of damage may result in an autoimmune disease, or other health problems.

How does the phrase “healthy whole grain” sound now? I always laugh when I hear that. Then cry.

1. Like grains, it is the seed of a plant, whose function is reproduction.

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  2. Dante on August 12th, 2011 @ 15:51

    Wow… This is a very interesting article! I’m very intolerant of gluten and all grains (including corn and rice). I recently decided to try quinoa. I ate it everyday for two weeks, and for the first few days I was fine. But after a few days, I noticed that I developed severe inflammation in my sinuses (a problem I never had before) and overall fatigue. I’m gonna stop eating quinoa for a while, as this very well may be the culprit.

  3. Brent on August 12th, 2011 @ 16:04

    Thanks for the comments, Dante and Heidi! I’m planning to post a follow-up soon, based on some new information I found in a study, and comments by Matt Lalonde at the Ancestral Health Symposium.

    Basically the concentration of prolamines in quinoa is very low – slightly lower than that of rice. Given that even extremely low levels of prolamine molecules increases systemic inflammation, I wouldn’t eat it every day. Once in awhile though, one could probably indulge without adverse effects. Unless you already have some kind of autoimmune disorder or other health issue and you want to play it really safe…

  4. Brent Kearney on August 23rd, 2011 @ 20:28

    Over on thespunkycoconut.com, Andrew wrote an alternative point of view on quinoa. As he put it in the comments section, he’s “an anti-grain and pro-quinoa guy”. I posted a reply, and he replied to it, and I replied to that, although as of now he hasn’t moderated that comment yet.

    I still plan on doing a follow-up post to this article, as I mentioned last week. The new information is a bit dense though. As part of my research I uncovered two interesting documents that I’ll share now.

    The first is a “Biopesticide Registration Action Document” from the U.S. Evironmental Protection Agency (EPA) for Quinoa’s saponin coating. Here it is. I added this link in the above article as well.

    The second quinoa-related document is a patent filing for the process of removing saponin from quinoa. Most of the time, the seeds are rinsed with water, which gets most of the saponin. There are several types of saponin on quinoa, however, and some are removed with alcohol. So this enterprising company patented a process of using a water & alcohol solution to get both types, so that it can be harvested for use in pesticides or other industrial applications, such as vaccine adjuvants.

    Although industrially processed quinoa (which may introduce new concerns!) has most of the saponins removed, some remains. Studies show that

    processing quinoa, during the manufacture of an infant cereal, reduced the concentration and membranolytic activity of saponins, and increased the palatability and nutritional quality of the cereal product to a level similar to that of a wheat-based cereal product.

    So the industrial saponin removal process reduces saponin concentration, but I suspected, some remains. If you have gut issues, best to avoid it.

  5. Brent Kearney on August 24th, 2011 @ 15:15

    I came across another romanticized post about quinoa, and since the comments section didn’t work with my browser, I’ll post my comment here and maybe the trackback function will work.

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    The thing that all grains have in common is that they are the seeds of plants. If you don’t like calling seeds of plants “grains”, then you can simply call them seeds. The words make no difference.

    The problem with eating plant seeds, such as quinoa, are that the plant includes chemical defense mechanisms to protect them from predation. They are, after all, the plant’s means of procreation. If all of the seeds are eaten by their natural predators, birds, then the plant won’t breed and would go extinct. In the case of quinoa, the primary defense is it’s saponin coating, which makes holes in the guts of critters who eat it.

    Industrially processed quinoa seeds have most of the saponin coating removed for use as a biopesticide, vaccine adjuvant, and other commercial uses. However, some saponin remains, and it is not a good for the gut lining. For this reason, I wouldn’t consume quinoa every day, or at all if I had a gut problem. Many people report reactions from eating quinoa, as a Google search will tell you.

    Saponin isn’t the end of the story on toxicity in quinoa. I wrote more about this here:
    http://brent.kearneys.ca/2011/07/28/is-quinoa-healthy/

    I aIso wouldn’t say that quinoa has a low-glycemic index. It is primarily a starch, and has a glycemic index of 53 (see: http://www.glycemicindex.com/ ), whereas boiled potatoes are about the same at 49.

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  7. Capriljo on January 17th, 2012 @ 13:49

    what then should we replace it with

  8. Brent Kearney on January 17th, 2012 @ 13:57

    What about quinoa needs replacing? Starch? Yams & sweet potatoes are relatively benign. 

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  11. David Pinto on January 27th, 2012 @ 10:10

    I would not be so sure about sweet potatoes, it’s part of the nightshades family, right?

  12. Brent on January 27th, 2012 @ 10:27

    I’m not sure whether they are. From what I understand though, tubers/root vegetables were a common food for early humans, so we should be fairly well adapted to eating them. The skins of tubers contain anti-nutrients (glycoalkaloids), so removing the skins is a good idea.

  13. David on January 28th, 2012 @ 08:27

    Ok, thanks for your answer. Do you know if Peas have the same toxic content and effect on our body ?

  14. Swankish Cuisine on February 19th, 2012 @ 08:46

    David, no, sweet potatoes are not a nightshade.

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  16. Victoria on September 23rd, 2012 @ 12:49

    From my understanding Saponins are also in Spinach, asparagus, beets and herbs like Calendula and Arnica…. I have read that they stimulate the respiratory tract, help increase the absorption of minerals and have wound-healing properties… 

  17. Brent Kearney on September 23rd, 2012 @ 13:34

    Thanks Victora! Yes, apparently different plants have different saponins. According to Cornell University,

    “…the saponins found in oats and spinach increase and accelerate the body’s ability to absorb calcium and silicon, thus assisting in digestion. … Saponins are generally not a problem in tropical forage legumes.”

    However, what they say about the toxic ones seems consistent with what Robb Wolf says:

    “As well as irritating the membranes of the respiratory and digestive tract, the aglycones in certain saponins increase the permeability of the membranes of red blood cells. In severe cases, the membranes are destroyed and their hemoglobin escapes into the bloodstream.”

  18. Jay on December 6th, 2012 @ 08:16

    Soak your grains, ferment your grains, more importantly, learn about the process of nixtamalization before freaking people out over saponins…

  19. Brent on December 6th, 2012 @ 12:39

    Jay, it seems that you didn’t read the article. Saponins are only part of the problem, as I go on to discuss after the link to the organic pesticide document — the one where they discuss a two stage process of soaking in water, and then alcohol, to harvest the saponin from quinoa. So they can use it as a pesticide.

    But since you mention it, from Wikipedia, the process of Nixtamalization is:

    The first step in nixtamalization, kernels of dried maize are cooked in an alkaline solution at or near the mixture’s boiling point. After cooking, the maize is steeped in the cooking liquid for a period. The length of time for which the maize is boiled and soaked varies according to local traditions and the type of food being prepared, with cooking times ranging from a few minutes to an hour, and soaking times from a few minutes to about a day….

    After cooking, the alkaline liquid (known as nejayote), containing dissolved hull, starch, and other corn matter, is decanted and discarded (or sometimes used in producing amatl paper).[4] The kernels are washed thoroughly of remaining nejayote, which has an unpleasant flavor. The pericarp is then removed, leaving the endosperm of the grain with or without the germ depending on the process.[5][6][7][8][9] This hulling is performed by hand, in traditional or very small-scale preparation, or mechanically, in larger scale or industrial production.

    I’d be interested in seeing some evidence that this process — for corn –works for the removal of saponin from quinoa. Even if it does work, how many people will go to all that trouble? A better solution is to leave the seeds to the birds, and eat some veggies instead.

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  21. Andrea on January 17th, 2013 @ 17:39

    It seems not all saponins are created equal, spinach and lots of plants contain it and humans produce something called cholesterin(spelling?) that deactivates it.

  22. Brent on January 25th, 2013 @ 02:01

    Hi Andrea, yes, that’s right — not all saponins are created equal. If quinoa saponin were not so inflammatory, it wouldn’t be used as a vaccine adjuvant, to cause a massive immune system response.

  23. Ion on February 1st, 2013 @ 08:37

    Hey,
    Excellent stuff, thank you ! This article gave me a lot of answers and now I have even more questions, please tell me :

    I think too that the grains are meant for birds and other animals.
    Now, I wonder, is it safe to eat meat ?

    First, maybe eating bird meat is safer since the birds, as natural grain-eaters, are able to break down the antinutriments in the grain (I don’t know). Or maybe is is even more dangerous since they feed only on grain. I don’t know etheir.

    To the contrary a non-natural grain-eater like beef, so an herbivore, feed only on grain will give meat that is stuffed with those antinutriment ? If we then eat the meat, it is even more concentrated in those antinutriments that if we just ate the grain.
    This mean people are maybe right to rather eat whole grains than this type of meat anyway.
    This also may well explain the mad cow… cow feed to cow = the concentration in antinutrient is so high that it easily gets to the cow brain and the immune system of the animal poke hole in the brain were the antinutriments are concentrated. Toxics and heavy metals are also concentrated in this cannibal loop. Infernal spiral, the gut is even more leaky, allowing for even more toxics and heavy metal to accumulate in the body… until an autoimmune/inflammatory response comes.

    Is meat of animals naturally raised (grains for grain-eater, herbs for herb-eater… monkeys are fruit-eater) also contain some sort of antinutriment on its own (without it being provided by a non-natural diet) ?

    Is there any good book that go through all this nutrition dangers food by food ?

    Thanks & have an excellent day.

  24. Brent on February 11th, 2013 @ 13:49

    Hi Ion,

    I recommend Robb Wolf’s book, The Paleo Solution. Another good one is The Perfect Health Diet, by the Jaminets. Chris Kresser also has a ton of good information on his site. Also check out the lecture recordings from the Ancestral Health Symposium.

    To answer your question, it is safe to eat grain-eating animals, although they tend to be higher in omega-6 fatty acids than non-grain eating animals. Since we evolved mainly on ruminants with around a 1:1 ratio of omega3 to omega6 fats, we should try not to over-indulge in foods high in omega6. I have read that the standard american diet has an omega3:6 ratio of between 1:10 and 1:20, which is very pro-inflammatory.

    It is also safe for most humans to eat grains, although because of our incomplete adaptation to eating them, they irritate the gut. So they should be consumed only occasionally and not as a staple part of the diet.

    An interesting fact I learned from Matt Lalonde’s 2012 Ancestral Health presentation is that the nutrition information for grains that everyone uses, from the FDA, is based on raw grains. They are inedible in that state, and once soaked or cooked, the nutrient density drops to extremely low levels.

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  26. Laura on May 16th, 2013 @ 13:36

    Hi Brent,

    I just discovered your website; and I very much so enjoyed this article. I’m a past science student (biology and medical sciences), so everything you mentioned made complete sense to me. I also like how sciency it is =D

    I am just starting to cut out grains out of my diet, as well as legumes and dairy (paleo!). After 2 days of doing this, I don’t even crave grains/carbs. I do however get some cravings for sweets after I work out haha.

    Well, thanks for putting this article together, it really helped confirm that what I am doing is the right thing (going paleo). I have been researching off and on for over a year different diets and such, and I truly believe paleo is the way to go! However, I do see making adjustments to it after my Whole 30 is up (i.e. reducing meat consumption).

    I’m looking forward to reading what else you have to say! Currently, nutrition is my topic of interest right now too… so I feel like your blog items are going to be very valuable to me =)

    Laura
    (Awesome links btw – Chris Kresser’s website, and the Ancestral Health Symposium !!!)

  27. Brent on May 16th, 2013 @ 15:35

    Thanks Laura! That made me happy. :)